From 3ad8114e4afedb5bb32b3839f7c26f255987bab5 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Lucas Werkmeister Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 21:47:16 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] =?UTF-8?q?Fix=20Elvish=20=E2=9F=A8o=E2=9F=A9,=20=E2=9F=A8?= =?UTF-8?q?=C3=B3=E2=9F=A9,=20=E2=9F=A8=C3=AA=E2=9F=A9=20vowels?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ⟨o⟩ almost certainly represents [ɔ] – Appendix E of The Lord of the Rings describes it as the sound in English “for”. This means we should use a phoneme [[O]], not [[o]]; we should also create our own phoneme for this, since the one we inherit from Latin sounds much more like [o] to me. In Quenya, long ⟨ó⟩ (and, presumably, ⟨ô⟩) is, according to Appendix E, “tenser and ‘closer’”, which presumably means [o]. (Online sources seem to agree.) The Latin [[o:]] phoneme works well enough for this. In Sindarin, ⟨ó⟩ has “the same quality” as ⟨o⟩ according to Appendix E, so emit it as [[O:]] for [ɔː]. This sounds sensible enough te me. I’m undecided whether “Lothlórien” should be in sjn_list, to pronounce it with [oː] instead of [ɔː]. It’s composed of Sindarin “loth” and Quenya “Lórien”, so that could potentially justify a pronunciation with a Quenya ⟨ó⟩. But then again, maybe it should be a standard Sindarin ⟨ó⟩. For now, I’ve opted to not add it; in the film The Fellowship of the Ring, Aragorn (Viggo Mortensen) says “Lothlórien” after the Fellowship leave Moria, and to me his ⟨ó⟩ sounds more like [ɔː] than [oː], so if this is wrong, at least it’s no more wrong than the famous movie adaptation :) --- dictsource/qya_rules | 6 +++--- dictsource/sjn_rules | 10 +++++----- phsource/ph_quenya | 6 ++++++ phsource/ph_sindarin | 6 ++++++ tests/language-pronunciation.test | 4 ++-- 5 files changed, 22 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-) diff --git a/dictsource/qya_rules b/dictsource/qya_rules index 1cb90788..16f4b7ba 100644 --- a/dictsource/qya_rules +++ b/dictsource/qya_rules @@ -103,11 +103,11 @@ ng (_ N .group o - o o + o O oi (+ OI // light penultimate syllable: put stress on antepenultimate - o (L01X =o - o (CL01X =o + o (L01X =O + o (CL01X =O .group ó ó o: diff --git a/dictsource/sjn_rules b/dictsource/sjn_rules index 1fa9825b..6ef7dbaa 100644 --- a/dictsource/sjn_rules +++ b/dictsource/sjn_rules @@ -97,17 +97,17 @@ ng (_ N .group o - o o + o O oe (+ OI // light penultimate syllable: put stress on antepenultimate - o (L01X =o - o (CL01X =o + o (L01X =O + o (CL01X =O .group ó - ó o: + ó O: .group ô - ô o:: + ô O:: .group p p p diff --git a/phsource/ph_quenya b/phsource/ph_quenya index 830eb1ac..6a2c7374 100644 --- a/phsource/ph_quenya +++ b/phsource/ph_quenya @@ -5,6 +5,12 @@ phoneme n CALL base1/n endphoneme +phoneme O + vwl starttype #o endtype #o + length 200 + FMT(vowel/oo) +endphoneme + phoneme w# vls glt apr // [h] ipa ʍ diff --git a/phsource/ph_sindarin b/phsource/ph_sindarin index be21547b..2fa0c527 100644 --- a/phsource/ph_sindarin +++ b/phsource/ph_sindarin @@ -5,6 +5,12 @@ phoneme n CALL base1/n endphoneme +phoneme O + vwl starttype #o endtype #o + length 200 + FMT(vowel/oo) +endphoneme + phoneme w# vls glt apr // [h] ipa ʍ diff --git a/tests/language-pronunciation.test b/tests/language-pronunciation.test index 5dfea5eb..ce9fe18f 100755 --- a/tests/language-pronunciation.test +++ b/tests/language-pronunciation.test @@ -186,7 +186,7 @@ S'a 'OksidU p'or- z'&~Ng&U~_:_: ,E*&U~ p,&l'avR&Z dU p,u*@-tug'es#" "Luís argüia à Júlia que «brações, fé, chá, óxido, pôr, zângão» eram palavras do português." "Latn" -test_phon qya ",aInul'Indal,E ald'INga aNk'alIm,a and'u:RIl at'akwE k,alak'IRja k,uIvI;'e:nEn ,EaR'EndIl El'EndIl ,ElEnt'a:RI; El'EssaR 'ENkwI;,E E'onwE ER'EssE,a h,ElkaR'aksE w#'Esta C'aRmEn Is'IlduR m'axtan nam'a:RI;,E n,u:mEn'o:RE 'oRom,E ot'okwE pEl'o:RI s'aURon tan'IkwEt,Il t,Elum'ECtaR tuR'ambaR und'o:mI;,El ut'umno" "Ainulindalë aldinga ancalima Andúril ataquë Calacirya Cuiviénen Eärendil Elendil Elentári Elessar enquië Eönwe Eressëa Helcaraxë hwesta Hyarmen Isildur Mahtan Namárië Númenórë Orome otoquë Pelóri Sauron Taniquetil Telumehtar Turambar Undómiel Utumno" "Quenya" +test_phon qya ",aInul'Indal,E ald'INga aNk'alIm,a and'u:RIl at'akwE k,alak'IRja k,uIvI;'e:nEn ,EaR'EndIl El'EndIl ,ElEnt'a:RI; El'EssaR 'ENkwI;,E E'OnwE ER'EssE,a h,ElkaR'aksE w#'Esta C'aRmEn Is'IlduR m'axtan nam'a:RI;,E n,u:mEn'o:RE 'OROm,E Ot'OkwE pEl'o:RI s'aUROn tan'IkwEt,Il t,Elum'ECtaR tuR'ambaR und'o:mI;,El ut'umnO" "Ainulindalë aldinga ancalima Andúril ataquë Calacirya Cuiviénen Eärendil Elendil Elentári Elessar enquië Eönwe Eressëa Helcaraxë hwesta Hyarmen Isildur Mahtan Namárië Númenórë Orome otoquë Pelóri Sauron Taniquetil Telumehtar Turambar Undómiel Utumno" "Quenya" test_phon ro "m,uzikol'og@_! yn b'eZ v'ynd wh'iski Si tekw'ila p@-*'ets f'iks" "Muzicologă în bej vând whisky și tequila, preț fix." "Latn" test_phon ru "Syr'okVja E#l;ikt@-r;if;ik'Atsyja 'juZnyx gub;'ern;ij d'Ast m'oS;nyj tVltS;'ok pVdj'8mu s;'elskVvV xVz;'Ajstva#" "Широкая электрификация южных губерний даст мощный толчок подъёму сельского хозяйства." "Cyrl" @@ -194,7 +194,7 @@ test_phon sd "s'Indhi b'o:li; 'Ind.o: jo:R'Vpi xa:nd'a:n s'a~: t[a:l'Vq R,@k#@nd J'Vnhn t['e: ,aRb'i: bo:l'i:;a J'o: b'I t[@m'a:m v'Vd.o: as'VR ,a:he: h'Ina v'aqt s'Indhi b'o:li s'Indh J'e: m'Vk# b'o:li_! 'ae~ d,@f@t['VRi z@b'a:n ,a:he:" "سنڌي ٻولي انڊو يورپي خاندان سان تعلق رکندڙ آريائي ٻولي آھي، جنھن تي عربي ٻوليءَ جو بہ تمام وڏو اثر آهي. هن وقت سنڌي ٻولي سنڌ جي مک ٻولي ۽ دفتري زبان آھي." "Arab" test_phon si "t'aw@t st#'a:n@ k'i:p@j,@kin w'a:rta: w'u: s'ul.u p'ipiri:m s'ah@ d'e:s@p,a:l@n@ p'akS@ k r'ija:k,a:ri:n 'at@r@ '&tiwu: g'&t.um h'e:tuwen 'ek 'ajeku m'ij@gos k'i:p@ d'eneku t'uwa:l@ l'aba: t'ibe:" "තවත් ස්ථාන කීපයකින් වාර්තා වූ සුළු පිපිරීම් සහ දේශපාලන පක්ෂ ක්‍රියාකාරීන් අතර ඇතිවූ ගැටුම් හේතුවෙන් එක් අයෙකු මියගොස් කීප දෙනෙකු තුවාල ලබා තිබේ." "Sinh" -test_phon sjn "'alf 'aman 'amaRT 'amon 'aRag,oRn aRn'OIdI;,ad 'aRvEd,uI bEl'ERI;,and b'oRom,IR bRag'ollaX bR'ETIl bRIT'ombaR bR'uInEn k'aIR kaR'aDRas k,ElEbR'i:an kRIss'aEgRIm d'EnET,oR dR'ENgIst d'u::n EkT'ElI;,on 'Emyn ER'I;ad,oR f'Ean,oR fInd'uIlas f'INgon fINg'olfIn fIn'aRfIn f'oRoX,El g'alaD,on gal'adRI;,El gR'ond gw'aIhIR w#'and j'aRwaIn 'ImladR,Is j'oRET IT'IlI;,En l#'u::n loTl'o:RI;,En m'EnEgR,oT mIT'EITEl mITR'andIR moR'annon m'oRI;,a n'aRgoTR,ond oR'offIn osg'IlI;,aT pal'anti:R p,alant'i:RI pEl'EnnoR p,ERI;'annaT hR'u::n sIl'IvREn ToR'ondoR" "alph Aman Amarth Amon Aragorn Arnoediad Arvedui Beleriand Boromir Bragollach Brethil Brithombar Bruinen Cair Caradhras Celebrían Crissaegrim Denethor Drengist dûn Ecthelion Emyn Eriador Fëanor Finduilas Fingon Fingolfin Finarfin Forochel Galadhon Galadriel Grond Gwaihir hwand Iarwain Imladris Ioreth Ithilien lhûn Lothlórien Menegroth Mitheithel Mithrandir Morannon Moria Nargothrond Orophin Osgiliath Palantír Palantíri Pelennor Periannath rhûn Silivren Thorondor" "Sindarin" +test_phon sjn "'alf 'aman 'amaRT 'amOn 'aRag,ORn aRn'OIdI;,ad 'aRvEd,uI bEl'ERI;,and b'OROm,IR bRag'OllaX bR'ETIl bRIT'OmbaR bR'uInEn k'aIR kaR'aDRas k,ElEbR'i:an kRIss'aEgRIm d'EnET,OR dR'ENgIst d'u::n EkT'ElI;,On 'Emyn ER'I;ad,OR f'Ean,OR fInd'uIlas f'INgOn fINg'OlfIn fIn'aRfIn f'OROX,El g'alaD,On gal'adRI;,El gR'Ond gw'aIhIR w#'and j'aRwaIn 'ImladR,Is j'ORET IT'IlI;,En l#'u::n lOTl'O:RI;,En m'EnEgR,OT mIT'EITEl mITR'andIR mOR'annOn m'ORI;,a n'aRgOTR,Ond OR'OffIn Osg'IlI;,aT pal'anti:R p,alant'i:RI pEl'EnnOR p,ERI;'annaT hR'u::n sIl'IvREn TOR'OndOR" "alph Aman Amarth Amon Aragorn Arnoediad Arvedui Beleriand Boromir Bragollach Brethil Brithombar Bruinen Cair Caradhras Celebrían Crissaegrim Denethor Drengist dûn Ecthelion Emyn Eriador Fëanor Finduilas Fingon Fingolfin Finarfin Forochel Galadhon Galadriel Grond Gwaihir hwand Iarwain Imladris Ioreth Ithilien lhûn Lothlórien Menegroth Mitheithel Mithrandir Morannon Moria Nargothrond Orophin Osgiliath Palantír Palantíri Pelennor Periannath rhûn Silivren Thorondor" "Sindarin" test_phon sk "k'r:d;el^ St;'astni:Q d;'atl^ow 'utSi: pR'i;u:st;i: v'a:hu m'l:kveho k'on^a 'ophRi:zat; k'uoRu_:_: a ZR'at; tS'eRstve: m'eso p'et;ti:Zdn^,ove: v'l:tSata: n'eRvo:zn^e St;'ekaju: n'amu,ojho d;'atl^a_! v_ t'r:n^i:" "Kŕdeľ šťastných ďatľov učí pri ústí Váhu mĺkveho koňa obhrýzať kôru a žrať čerstvé mäso. Päťtýždňové vĺčatá nervózne štekajú na môjho ďatľa v tŕní." "Latn" test_phon sl "xiSn'i:tSin bR'a:tEts uzg'a:ja p'o:wZE p'o:t fik'u:sOm" "Hišničin bratec vzgaja polže pod fikusom." "Latn"